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C. & O. Railway
Company Piers and Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Company Newport News, VA 23607 http://www.nnhs65.com/BILL-LEE/SS-MEDINA.pdf - added 04/06/10 |
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Courtesy of Tim Parsons ('73) of
VA - 07/17/04 Thanks, Tim! |
Wedgwood Commemorative Plate of Christening of USS Enterprise - 24 Sep 1960 | |
08/14/06 |
NOW: |
On a positive
note, the SS United States has once
again been 'rescued' from demolition and plans are |
- Dave Arnold of
VA - 05/23/93 Thanks, Dave! |
NOW: | |
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Sunday, November 23, 2003 | Sunday, November 23, 2003 |
A Vivid Reminder
As I was standing on the 200 block of 41st Street taking the image of the
Main Office,
I looked to the north |
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- Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA -
11/23/03 Thanks, Dave - it's extraordinarily sad, but necessary that we see this. |
The First Presbyterian Church on 32nd Street (next to the YMCA) had a very major role in the early years of Newport News Shipbuilding. When Collis Huntington of railroad fame, who was a great supporter of the original Homer Ferguson, the driving force in the shipyard, wanted to locate a shipyard in Newport News they also wanted to get shipbuilding artisans from Europe. The Clyde Shipyards in Port Glasgow, Scotland, were going bankrupt as were many shipyards in Europe in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Accordingly, they recruited skilled artisans from Scotland to come to America, one of whom was my grandfather, Robert Murray Dick, who was a skilled ship's carpenter. Many others came with my grandfather and, hence, the need for a Presbyterian Church since it is basically "The Church of Scotland". My early family had many great ties to the old locally owned shipyard and, of course, they were Presbyterians through and through. Henry Hoyle ('65) and I both grew up in that beautiful old church. I was both baptized there and joined the church there as a young boy. I haven't been to town in a while but I hope that beautiful stained glass window is still showing out on 32d Street. Ah, the memories of what was a wonderful downtown. The malls just don't do the same thing! |
- Jim Dick ('65) of FL - 08/29/04 Thanks, Jimmy! |
THEN AND NOW: |
...The
mention of the huge stone in the Shipyard
saying, "We Shall Build Good Ships Here - At A Profit - If We Can - At A Loss - If We Must - But Always Good Ships." was, as mentioned, removed from the Shipyard when Tenneco bought the company....it was sent to the Mariners' Museum......It came back some years later and is available for anyone to see on 41st Street, next to the DOROTHY, the Tugboat build by N.N. Shipbuilding as their first ship. This is all across the street from the main office building, which is on Washington Avenue.
Things are so different since Northrop Grumman purchased the Shipyard....
When
Tenneco owned us, we were still N.N. Shipbuilding, a Tenneco Company.....
the
name stayed on the huge Cranes.... Now, Newport News is completely gone... |
- Fred Mays ('60) of VA -
01/07/04 WOW..... Thanks, Fred! |
NOW: |
USS Reagan
I may have sent
this to you before ??? Built at Newport News Shipbuilding. |
HISTORY: |
They dared to dream: Collis P. Huntington: Shipyard's founderThe yard's father was first a traveling peddler then a '49er and aggressive railroad tycoon.
BY VICTOR REKLAITIS
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- Extracted and Preserved for us by Dave
Spriggs ('64) of VA - 08/17/06
Thanks so much, Dave! |
MEMORIES: |
Carol, Wonder if anyone has photos of the old C&O Coal Terminals? I remember as a kid traveling over a short one lane wooden bridge that headed towards them somewhere around the pier train station. Once there you could see a special rig that took in a railroad train hopper car which would roll it over, upside down to empty it onto a conveyor belt. That in turn took the coal up to a tower with shoots that loaded it onto ships. Those black towers were a haunting sight, like aliens from "War of the Worlds" or giant insects and could see them for miles. I use to have photos of them during the days when you could drive up to piers with no security risk but since lost. Would like to see them again! I wonder what happened to that unique specially made setup? Eric |
- Eric Huffstutler (Bethel
HS - '75) of VA - 03/01/06 (but inexplicably not published until
03/20/06...) Eric, I don't remember the wooden bridge (proving nothing, of course), but I do remember my daddy was particularly fascinated by that coal dumping rig. Whenever we had a spare moment which didn't involve Buckroe Beach Amusement Park, the Mariners' Museum, or the War Memorial Museum, chances were excellent that we'd all drive over to watch this hypnotic maneuvering. I'm fully convinced my daddy could have watched this happily for hours at a time, just as he could watch the ships pass at Buckroe Beach. We may not have parked there for over 45 minutes at a time, but it always seemed longer to me as a little girl. I certainly didn't mind, though. As long as we were all out doing something together, I was thrilled. In fact, we even went there to take our Easter pictures in 1954, which even as a six-year old, I thought was a very bizarre backdrop. Thanks, Eric! |
Here are some shots of the coal loading pier and vicinity. I, too, remember the road over the wooden bridge which permitted you to go down to the piers. Some of that road may be visible in one or more of these images. |
- Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA -
03/21/06 Thanks, Dave, and especially for the new images! |
Hi, Carol: I enjoyed reading the memories of Eric Huffstutler (Bethel HS - '75) of VA with respect to the C & O Terminal and Coal Handling Facility, and especially his recollection of the wooden bridge leading to the C & O Building and Piers. In fact, I checked the website to revisit the photos posted, and comments about this focal point that was so important to driving the economy of the Peninsula. It was always fun to visit the piers. I searched for a comment or two that I had sent you earlier about the wooden bridge. Maybe I only thought I had sent it to you, as I did not find any reference to the bridge on the page. Although I'm usually the guilty party here due my my nasty procrastinations, Joe, this time I think I might actually be innocent. I recall your speaking of Eva's grandfather before, but I really do not recall any discussion of a wooden bridge. Once again, however, this proves absolutely nothing. Ask me about Thanksgiving of 1949. Now, that I remember! That bridge was built in 1918 by the grandfather of Eva Ellis Madagan ('61) of FL. His name was Carl Floyd and he continued in the construction business until the mid-1960's. The C & O Bridge as we commonly called it was built to permit access to the C & O Building that was completed in 1918. The wooden bridge allowed traffic from West Avenue to enter the parking lot of the C & O Building, and also to access the piers from a rather steep roadway on the south side of the building. The wooden bridge construction was one of the first projects undertaken by Mr. Floyd when he started his business upon returning from Europe at the end of World War I. He suffered from chlorine gas exposure from the trenches in Flanders. The bridge was sturdy and rugged, and crossed the passenger train track that terminated on a pier adjacent to the passenger station and the steam boat pier. That old wooden bridge was replaced with a newer one in the late 1960's. The old bridge was neat, as it sort of rumbled under the tires of my bicycle when I rushed to deliver Western Union Telegrams to the C & O Building regarding the impending arrival of ocean going vessels as a young TYPHOON. |
- Joe Madagan ('57) of FL -
03/21/06 WOWZERS!!! Thanks, Joe! |
Hello Carol, Tue. Mar. 21, 06 Eric Huffstutler (Bethel HS - '75) of VA asked about a wooden bridge access to the C&O area. That bridge was built early in WW-II. I remember it from my summer job at the Army's Hampton Roads Port of Embarkation (HRPE) in 1943. It was placed at a short extension of the south end of West Avenue going just beyond 23rd Street. The road continued south of the bridge then made a quick turn and ended at River Road. Of all the C&O piers, the shortest one was at the end of the passenger train track. The only purpose of that pier was to berth the NN-to-Norfolk steamer Virginia, so it was not a long pier. An arriving passenger train would back onto the pier so that passengers to and from the Virginia would have a short walk. That position was also convenient for passengers who had been in the waiting room of the old Victorian style station. This was all determined in the 19th century master plan when the C&O was built. During the war the passenger traffic greatly increased and so the trains got longer. So much so that when parked at the station, they would extend far across River Road. This of course blocked all the street traffic into and out of the Port area. As a hasty remedy, the Army built the wooden bridge. The wooden bridge was only long enough to cross the single passenger train track. The freight train tracks arrived further south. I don't think pedestrians were allowed to use the wooden bridge. I remember coming back from lunch and having to stand in line to climb through a passenger car to get back to my messenger job. HRPE supplied a great many jobs for NN residents. The pay was very good. I was paid more as a 15 year old messenger than I would make at my next two summer jobs at the Shipyard. At that time there was a state law which prohibited youths under 16 from being hired in industrial jobs without a special work permit. HRPE workers were U.S. Government employees and so the state law did not apply. |
- Fred Field ('45) of CA -
03/21/06 Thanks, Fred! Your account differs somewhat from Joe's, both as to the date and the builder, but I'll let y'all figure that one out yourselves. |
Carol - My father and I used to go watch coal being dumped. I was fascinated with the coal car being turned upside down. We had to roll up the windows to keep the coal dust out. |
- Barbara Houston ('68) of
Northern VA - 03/21/06
Thanks, Barbara!
Your memory mirrors my own. |
Hi, Carol: May I suggest that Fred Fields ('45 - of CA) and I each provided a couple of pieces to a puzzle with respect to the Wooden Bridge over the passenger track at the terminus of the Chesapeake and Ohio Railroad line in Newport News. Since it was a wooden bridge and had a lot of traffic, I am sure it was replaced one or more times long before the time I remember the work in the late 1960's. Mr. Carl Floyd was grateful that he secured the job as he was just starting his construction business when he won that contract to build the wooden bridge, and he was very proud of his work. We appreciate being given an opportunity to recall a bit of history of the Peninsula while we were TYPHOON. |
- Joe Madagan ('57) of FL -
03/22/06 Thank you, Joe! |
I had to write about the coal piers, too. My dad, Al Clendenin, was a Customs Inspector who spent many hours boarding those ships at the coal piers. Our Sunday drives usually ended down there, watching the coal cars turn upside down and dump their contents. My brother and I thought it was so cool! Just like you, I thought my dad was the most wonderful man on earth. One of my proudest days was when he took my whole fifth grade class from Deer Park Elementary School down to the piers to tour and board a ship. He worked with other Customs Inspectors whose sons went to NNHS - Clyde Point ('64), Joe ('63) and Bobby ('64) Wright, Rollie Hamel ('66). When he retired, he was the Port Director. |
- Melody Clendenin DeBerry (WHS -
'66) of VA - 03/22/06 COOL! Thanks, Melody! |
I have worked on the docks since 1964. I was very good friends with Al Clendenin and his wife. We boarded many a ship together. I started as a boarding agent with Lavino Shipping Company, after which I went into the union as a clerk with the longshoreman. I have been the President of Local 862 clerks and checkers for the past 25 years and still going strong. I had the pleasure of working along side Fred Anspach (NNHS - '64), Melvin Renn (Warwick) and Randy Tosh (NNHS - '63). Any information needed about waterfront anyone needs, just let me know. |
- Gary Fitzgerald ('61) of VA -
03/24/06 WOWZERS!!! Thanks, Gary! |
I was born in 1942 when my parents lived in a new house on Briarfield Road (Betsy Lee Gardens)....I understand that there was a bridge that connected to 50th Street, from Jefferson Avenue....it was wooden, so I am told and it came out where Coates and Clark once stood. An uncle of mine lived with us briefly and he walked across this bridge daily to the Shipyard.... |
- Fred Mays ('60) of VA -
03/25/06 Thanks, Fred! |
Does anyone remember the C&O railroad "company" store? It's where I got my first pair of cowboy boots and a harmonica. Those were root'n toot'n days! I still remember the smell, real leather -everything. There was also something about a cardboard clock with a movable mouth and a great face you got with your shoes. Buster Brown? My dad worked for the railroad for about thirty years. He worked at the 58th Street hump. He tagged cars. He said it never snowed at the railroad. It took me thirty years to figure out he meant because as a six year old kid I remember seeing snow come in on those coal cars. The things we remember......imagine. |
- Linda May Bond Crayton ('66) of
VA - 03/26/06 Thanks, Linda May! |
Carol, I really have enjoyed reading all the accounts of the C&O and the coal piers. My dad would fill a cooler with ice cold lemonade and Mama would make sandwiches and we'd sit up there at the highest point on hot summer nights (no AC back then) and watch the activity down at the coal piers. We would sit out on a blanket under the stars and enjoy God's work while watching man's. My dad, Cookie's and Charlie's dad, and another uncle and aunt all put 30-40 years in at the C&O. They have all passed away now, but every time I cross the M&M Tunnel heading back into NN, I think of all the good times growing up. Linda May mentioned the C&O Commissary or "company store" this week. We were there every Saturday morning shopping. What memories! My uncle Zack Phillips and his wife, Charlotte, both had the following song performed at their funerals. It brings a tear to my eye every time I hear it. I was so excited when someone sent this to me last year. The song is different from the piece that is written and illustrated. I suggest reading first, then sit back and listen to the words. I hope you can share it with all those "special" Typhoons who were C&O children and dedicate it to Myra Phillips Day. Life's Railway to Heaven, performed by Patsy Cline and Willie Nelson: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/singingman7/TOL.htm Thanks! God bless you all! |
- Judy Phillips Allen ('66) of VA
- 03/28/06 WOWZERS! Thanks, Judy! |
Delighted that
you saw fit to recently mention my story about NNHS grad Pam Cole in your
latest offering. I'm not sure why
you can't |
- Bill Lee (Warwick HS - '54)
of NC - 10/02/07
AHA!!! That I can do! Thanks, Bill! |
THEN: | ||
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Attached are 3 shipyard images I
came across.
- Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA -
10/12/07 |
...During the depression the shipyard was one of the few employers who didn't lay off their employees. They reduced the number of shift hours, so each of their employees had some money coming in. With the onset of WWII work exploded at the shipyard. A lot of men and women came to Newport News from North Carolina and West Virginia because of the work. When they first arrived there was very little housing. (My husband) Dick (Krause - '56 / '57) (05 Feb 1939 - 27 Dec 1999) told me that the the widows in the big houses near the shipyard began renting out rooms - plus feeding the workers a hot lunch for a small amount of money. He told me that as the work load increased at the yard, and more workers arrived, they were sharing beds at the boarding houses. They called them 'hot beds' because as one worker got up to report for his 12 hour shift, another fellow was getting off work and headed straight to sleep in the same bed... |
- Joan Lauterbach Krause ('60) of VA - 07/17/09 Thank you so much, Joan! |
"During the depression the shipyard was one of the few employers who didn't lay off their employees. They reduced the number of shift hours, so each of their employees had some money coming in." I'd like to add some numerical information to further highlight the conditions at NNS during the height of the Great Depression, and include a related, heart-warming short story: Around the beginning of 1931, the yard cut everyone's pay by ten percent. A few months later, another ten percent cut had to be made. In addition, craftsmen working on naval vessels in that time period were limited to 4 days-32 hours a week. In the late 1920s/early 1930s, the Foreman of the NNS Boiler Shop was Robert Carter (whom everyone called Captain Bob). He had several children, including Hubert. Following is an excerpt that I wrote a few years ago about the Carter family: After attending Walter Reed Grammar School, Hubert went to Newport News High School, where he played football in his senior year. He graduated in February 1934, in the middle of the nation’s painful recovery from The Great Depression.
Nevertheless, his Father managed to get him a low-paying job as an inexperienced helper in the shipyard’s boiler shop. However, it wasn’t too long after that when Captain Bob was forced to make some personnel cutbacks in his department. He told Hubert to go home. When his son protested, saying that his Dad could lay off someone making more money (and everyone, just about, made more money than an unskilled helper), his Father replied: “Boy, go home. I can take care of you. I won’t lay off a man that has a family.”
That story was related to me by Hubert's son, Bond Carter, who took me to
see his Dad (Bond had worked for me at NNS in the early 1970s). I
completed and presented a story entitled A Family of Shipbuilders
to the Carter clan about a year before Hubert passed away. |
- Bill Lee (Warwick HS - '54) of NC -
07/19/09
Thank you, Bill, that is a moving account! |
Bond once worked for me, but was called "Stump" by everyone - see page 12 of the attached for the 'deviation' of that nickname, and, on page 13, a picture of him and Barbara when we spent a delightful afternoon at his parent's home. Since I created this story, Bond's Father passed away, but he did get to read it. I was fortunate to meet him in 2006, get a first-hand account of his shipbuilding career and borrow a number of the illustrations contained in the story about this family of shipbuilders. |
- Bill Lee (Warwick HS - '54) of NC -
07/30/09
Thank you so much, Bill! |
Sittin' on the Dock of the Bay
- written by Otis Redding and
Steve Cropper
- lyrics as recorded by Otis Redding December 7, 1967, just three
days before his death in a plane crash outside Madison, Wisconsin
- #1 for 4 weeks in 1968
Sittin' in the mornin' sun
I'll be sittin' when the evenin' come
Watching the ships roll in
And then I watch 'em roll away again, yeah
I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm just sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time
I left my home in Georgia
Headed for the 'Frisco bay
'Cause I've had nothing to live for
And look like nothin's gonna come my way
So I'm just gonna sit on the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Ooo, I'm sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time
Look like nothing's gonna change
Everything still remains the same
I can't do what ten people tell me to do
So I guess I'll remain the same, yes
Sittin' here resting my bones
And this loneliness won't leave me alone
It's two thousand miles I roamed
Just to make this dock my home
Now, I'm just gonna sit at the dock of the bay
Watching the tide roll away
Oooo-wee, sittin' on the dock of the bay
Wastin' time
(whistle)
"Sittin' on the
Dock of the Bay" midi courtesy of
http://www.wtv-zone.com/wordtiller/midi/dockbay.mid,
at the suggestion of Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA - 07/06/03
Thanks, Dave!
"Sittin' on the
Dock of the Bay" lyrics courtesy of
http://www.lyricsdepot.com/otis-redding/sitting-on-the-dock-of-the-bay.html,
also at the suggestion of Dave Spriggs ('64) of VA - 07/06/03
Thanks again, Dave!
Animated Train clip art courtesy of http://www.gottrains.com/traingifs.htm - 05/03/03